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Project members falling into the FGC5494 subclades can improve the data on this and the Pedigrees page through EXPERT LEVEL PARTICIPATION. Project cluster numbers for these members starting about 2800.

R1b subclade DF13 is the parent of several major haplogroups with significant representation in the British Isles. Among those major haplogroups under DF13 are some of what were called the "Gaelic" ones - Dal Cais, North Irish, South Irish, etc. Those groups, which turned up in early yDNA research, are now better known by their correlative SNPs: R-L226, R-M222, R-CTS4466, etc. At one time it was thought those groups in particular originated within Ireland. That view has shifted somewhat.

FGC5494 is is well dispersed in England, Scotland, Wales, Isle of Man, and Ireland, with a smattering on the European continent. FGC5494 probably entered the British Isles from the continent. Some have claimed Northern Frankish origins. Project members willing to commit financially to more extensive Y testing of STRs and SNPs should join the FGC5494 Haplogroup project.

Current estimates show a FGC5494 TMRCA date of roughly about 2500 BCE. The formation date of the FGC5494 mutation is about the same. FGC5494 has been found in ancient sites on the continent.

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• R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6 FGC5494 2480 BCE
  • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6. FGC5561 2460 BCE
    • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6.. FGC19916 1870 BCE
      • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6... M954/A19914 1660 CE L Cluster 2802 further analysis
        • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6.... FT63968 1810 CE
          • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6..... L1314 1910 CE
    • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6.. FGC82708 2430 BCE
      • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6... FGC69926 2290 BCE
        • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6.... BY7807 2000 BCE
          • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6..... BY7804 1680 BCE
            • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6...... BY11581 1580 BCE
              • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6....... BY11585 1140 BCE
                • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6........ BY11577 130 CE L Cluster 2808 further analysis
    • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6.. FGC5495 2450 BCE
      • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6... FGC5496 2230 BCE
        • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6.... FGC5512 2100 BCE
          • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6..... BY3983 2100 BCE L
            • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6...... A7505 1790 CE L Cluster 2804
        • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6.... PR1289 1960 BCE
          • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6..... A194 1780 BCE
            • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6...... CTS2457 250 CE Cluster 2806
              • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6....... FTD26445 710 CE
                • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6........ BY101431 1270 CE
                  • R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a6......... FTD40299 1490 CE

SNP Time and Geography Map Back to Top

The locations pinned on the map are partly based on the genealogical data provided by project members and partly based on the location data at Scaled Innovation (Rob Spencer). Time period estimates are color coded based on Scaled Innovation.

Modal Haplotypes of FGC5494 Collinses Back to Top

Four modal haplotypes were generated from the project for Collinses believed to be R-L1314, R-A7505, R-CTS2457, and R-BY11577. An R-FGC5494 modal haplotype in turn was generated from these modals.

Table #1 Haplotypes for different R-FGC5494 subclade Collinses
relative position	1	2	3	4	5-6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14-15	16	17	18	19	20	21	22-25	26	27	28-29	30	31	32	33	34-35	36	37	38	39	40-41	42	43	44	45	46	47	48	49-50	51	52	53	54	55	56	57	58	59	60	61	62	63	64	65	66	67	68	69	70	71	72	73	74	75	76	77	78	79	80	81	82	83	84	85	86	87	88	89	90	91	92	93	94	95	96	97	98	99	100	101	102	103	104	105	106	107	108	109	110	111	relative position
Short Tandem Repeat Markers (STRS)	DYS393	DYS390	DYS19	DYS391	DYS385	DYS426	DYS388	DYS439	DYS389I	DYS392	DYS389II	DYS458	DYS459	DYS455	DYS454	DYS447	DYS437	DYS448	DYS449	DYS464	DYS460	Y-GATA-H4	YCAII	DYS456	DYS607	DYS576	DYS570	CDY	DYS442	DYS438	DYS531	DYS578	DYF395S1	DYS590	DYS537	DYS641	DYS472	DYF406S1	DYS511	DYS425	DYS413	DYS557	DYS594	DYS436	DYS490	DYS534	DYS450	DYS444	DYS481	DYS520	DYS446	DYS617	DYS568	DYS487	DYS572	DYS640	DYS492	DYS565	DYS710	DYS485	DYS632	DYS495	DYS540	DYS714	DYS716	DYS717	DYS505	DYS556	DYS549	DYS589	DYS522	DYS494	DYS533	DYS636	DYS575	DYS638	DYS462	DYS452	DYS445	Y-GATA-A10	DYS463	DYS441	Y-GGAAT-1B07	DYS525	DYS712	DYS593	DYS650	DYS532	DYS715	DYS504	DYS513	DYS561	DYS552	DYS726	DYS635	DYS587	DYS643	DYS497	DYS510	DYS434	DYS461	DYS435	Short Tandem Repeat Markers (STRS)
member #	Marker Speed (Mutation Rate) Color Codes: X-Slow Slow Slow-Medium Medium Fast-Medium Fast X-Fast Unknown																																																																member #
MODAL	13	24	14	11	11-14	12	12	12	13	13	29	17	9-10	11	11	25	15	19	30	15-15-17-17	11	11	19-23	16	15	18	17	37-39	12	12	11	9	15-16	8	10	10	8	10	10	12	23-23	17	10	12	12	15	8	12	22	20	13	12	11	13	11	11	12	12	34	15	9	16	12	23	26	19	12	11	13	12	11	9	13	12	10	11	11	30	12	13	24	13	10	10	20	15	17	12	24	17	12	15	24	12	23	18	10	14	17	9	12	11	MODAL
L1314-MDL	14	24	14	11	11-14	12	12	12	13	13	29	16	9-9	11	11	25	15	19	30	15-15-15-18	11	10	19-23	16	15	20	17	37-39	12	12	13	9	15-16	8	10	10	8	10	10	12	23-23	16	10	12	12	15	8	13	22	20	13	12	11	13	10	11	12	12	36	15	9	16	12	23	26	19	11	12	12	11	11	9	13	12	10	11	11	30	12	14	24	13	10	10	21	15	17	13	24	17	13	15	24	12	24	18	10	14	17	9	12	11	L1314-MDL
A7505-MDL	13	24	14	10	11-14	12	12	12	13	13	29	17	9-10	11	11	23	15	19	29	15-15-17-17	11	11	19-23	15	16	18	18	37-39	12	12	11	9	16-16	8	11	10	8	10	10	12	23-23	17	10	12	12	16	8	12	22	20	13	12	11	13	11	11	12	12	34	15	9	16	12	26	26	19	12	11	13	12	12	9	13	12	10	11	11	30	12	13	24	12	10	11	23	15	17	14	24	17	12	15	24	12	24	18	10	14	18	9	12	11	A7505-MDL
CTS2457-MDL	13	24	14	11	11-15	12	12	12	13	14	29	19	9-10	11	11	25	15	19	30	15-15-17-17	11	11	19-23	16	16	17	17	36-37	12	12	11	9	15-16	8	10	10	8	10	10	12	23-23	17	11	12	12	15	8	12	22	22	13	13	11	13	11	11	12	12	34	15	9	16	12	27	26	19	12	11	13	12	11	9	13	12	10	11	11	30	12	13	24	13	10	10	20	15	18	12	24	15	12	16	24	12	23	18	10	14	17	9	13	11	CTS2457-MDL
BY11577-MDL	13	24	14	11	12-14	12	12	11	12	13	27	17	9-10	11	11	25	15	19	30	15-15-17-17	11	11	19-23	16	15	18	17	36-39	13	12	11	9	15-16	8	10	10	8	10	10	12	23-23	17	10	12	12	15	8	14	22	20	13	12	11	13	11	11	12	12	34	15	9	16	12	24	26	19	12	11	14	12	11	9	13	12	10	11	11	32	13	13	24	13	10	10	20	15	19	12	24	20	12	16	24	12	23	18	10	14	17	9	12	11	BY11577-MDL
member #	Distance from Modal Color Codes: Zero One Two Three+ No-Read																																																																member #

Genetic Distances of FGC5494 Collins Modals Back to Top

See Genetic Distance in Page Help for details. Note the remarks on the reliability of TMRCA estimation based on STR markers gradually deteriorating as we go further back in time. This would be particularly applicable to modal comparison, as opposed to comparison of individuals.

Genetic Distance Color Key Very Tightly Related Tightly Related Related Probably Related Possibly Related Not Related FTDNA's Measures of Relatedness

Genetic Distances of R-FGC5494 Collinses from Different Subclades 111 Markers ID MODAL L1314-MDL A7505-MDL CTS2457-MDL BY11577-MDL MODAL 111 24 23 20 20 L1314-MDL 24 111 41 44 42 A7505-MDL 23 41 111 35 41 CTS2457-MDL 20 44 35 111 33 BY11577-MDL 20 42 41 33 111

TMRCA Calculations of FGC5494 Collins Modals Back to Top

See Time to Most Common Recent Ancestor in Page Help for details. Note the remarks on the reliability of TMRCA estimation based on STR markers gradually deteriorating as we go further back in time. This would be particularly applicable to modal comparison, as opposed to comparison of individuals.

TMRCA Table (Experimental Calculation) ID MODAL L1314-MDL A7505-MDL CTS2457-MDL BY11577-MDL MODAL 111 33-65 31-62 26-54 26-54 L1314-MDL 33-65 111 67-113 74-123 70-116 A7505-MDL 31-62 67-113 111 54-95 67-113 CTS2457-MDL 26-54 74-123 54-95 111 50-89 BY11577-MDL 26-54 70-116 67-113 50-89 111 Tightly Related Related Probably Related Possibly Related Remote

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